Does anyone know of UK tv/internet supplier for Casares costa - Page 2

Why do you always turn a simple conversation or question into an argument or a legal judgment based on your opinion to which anyone who dares to question you gets a lecture? You have repeated advocated the use of VPN's on many threads in favour of the likes of Avatel or Olivenet etc. All I am suggesting is that surely the use of a VPN to obtain UK TV is just as illegal as using Avatel or Olivenet. But because you presumably do that it's OK. Apparently. When actually it's not. I don't much care either way as I use Avatel and am generally happy with them but I am simply pointing out that what you advocate as OK is no more OK than the alternative. I'm surprised that you haven't written a blog about it.

"You have repeated advocated the use of VPN's on many threads in favour of the likes of .........)"

Right now private use of a VPN's to avoid geo-blocking of live broadcasts is not illegal, (although it is in places like Russia and China), however, 'torrenting' the download copyright material like games and movies a different case) 

'Piracy' was my issue, selling on content or bundling with other services without consent, that's what I don't support, 'such suppliers can be busted and have been'. Right now until a change of law, nobody will be busted for using a VPN, it's a useful way using peoples internet feed and avoid geo-blocking. What people do is up to them, but they could find channels suddenly vanish, I think this thread started with a lady having signal problems,  .   

A vPN is not illegal and as others have said provides security. Accessing a service which needs your IP address is not a problem as the vPN can be switched off in seconds. As to it’s use in piracy it depends on your view of piracy. Stealing services such as Sky or Netflix is, I would suggest, unnaceptable. On the other hand paying the ridiculous price of Sky every month at home and then continuing to be able to watch whilst abroad is only receiving what you have paid for. Likewise with Netflix, their subscription allows you to watch Netflix anywhere in the world, but only local programs, why should that be when most of the programs are made by Netflix in the first place? All a vPN allows is their often unreasonable restrictions to be bypassed. The reality is that the big producers of content continue to take the Micky out of their customers, they supposedly do it because of “licensing” but since they usually own the content, that simply doesn’t fly. Stealing content no, getting what you’ve paid for, why not. 

"As to it’s use in piracy it depends on your view of piracy"

'The standard definition  "piracy" refers to the unauthorized copying, distribution and selling of copyright works'

You mention about paying for Sky and Netflix (or even your TV licence) and not being able to access abroad, a VPN allows people to access their UK account. It might be an error on the part of broadcasters not obtaining rights for for their subscribers, rather than territories, but that's made complex with free to air broadcasts. It's also made more complex with other facets in the content, which can include commercial, which also have copyright content including music in commercials. Note SKY News on You Tube block out most content apart from their news items.      

 You say  "All a VPN allows is their often unreasonable restrictions to be bypassed" That's a lot, is it not? .

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Massive companies such as film production companies and distributors such as Sky have tried, unfortunately fairly successfully, to imply that anyone, even if they have paid for content either by purchase or subscription is then restricted in how that content is viewed. This is a far cry from the days when people sat in a cinema with a camcorder strapped to their head, videotaping the latest blockbuster. As always happens, instead of using legislation to stamp out piracy, it’s instead been used to restrict reasonable rights of access. As far as I’m concerned if I’ve paid for a service, I’ll watch or listen to it wherever I happe to be. 

"I’ve paid for a service, I’ll watch or listen to it wherever I happen to be."

Fair enough, which can be done with a personal VPN, that's not piracy and selling content to others. Are you saying you support businesses who profit from piracy like below?  

https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2020/06/10/british-expats-in-spain-left-without-tv-and-movies-as-police-bust-e15-million-illegal-streaming-network/

Regards piracy on the Costa's and in Spain, it might be better just to acknowledge some cheap bundles, people like a good deal, strange place, for example, if an internet operator in UK offered bundles with a host free US copyright channels to win business, the likes of Vodaphone would be on the case as within days, many things go under the radar. In contrast a country loaded with ridiculous bureaucracy, while in contrast it can be like the wild west.      

On the contrary I have given no support for piracy which is theft of intellectual property. As a creator of content, I have no truck with my work or anyone else’s work being stolen or misused. However, in a ‘connected’ world geographic restrictions are unreasonable, especially for someone who is paying for that service at a higher rate (Eg the UK) because the content provider can get away with it and then is told that because they are temporarily elsewhere, they no longer have access. The providers of the legitimate services need to take a look at themselves and ask whether part of the reason for piracy is their own greed. If they started playing fair with their customers then I suspect the reasons for piracy would reduce. 

OK we agree about 'piracy', which leaves us with geo-blocking, the big pressure came from rights holders, resulting in the major UK broadcasters changing to the 'Astra fine spot beam'. Before then TV was great for Brits in Spain with sat dishes, (I might add a more efficient way of broadcasting and 'green', a single solar powered transponder of just a '100 watts can cover most of Europe' and hundreds of millions of homes) I'm in a related industry and argued with one of the main people responsible for the move to the spot beam, also bringing to their attention on the new beam people could still watch in the Netherlands and Ireland.(But blocked Brits in places like Spain in second homes who were also licence payers) The broadcasters themselves were not that bothered and Sky happy with lots of extra ex-pat subscriptions with UK addresses, the kill joys were the 'rights holders and in particular FOOTBALL', being a multi billion pound industry they were able to force the problem. At the end of the day the broadcasters are happy with bigger view figures, it's the rights holders who are more territorial, geo-blocking being the same as the spot beam problem, the blocking has created a whole piracy industry of course. (In my case I feel justified watching BBC in Spain with a VPN, I still pay a licence & right now watching FI on sat which I pay for, which for some reason not on the UK spot beam) I guess I could get some pirate bundle at a big saving, but I'm happy with what I have and don't wish to support piracy. (My Vodaphone internet speed amazing and upload large files via AWS, for work)  

Hi,

you should take out a subscription to “FilmOn”

This will give you BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and many others through your Wi-Fi.

Not particularly expensive for what you get, and not geographically limited

regards

https://www.filmon.com/tv/bbc-news