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Help with 90/180 days regulation

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 10:28am
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atab

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Please could someone in the know help relieve my confusion re. the 90 days out of 180 schengen regulation for 3rd countries?

We have an apartment in Calahonda and, for example, would like to visit for 30 days in June, followed by 60 days in September/October, which would complete our 90 days (180 days ending in November). We would then hope to return in January/February to start a further 180 day period. 

When we use the Schengen calculator it doesn't  appear to work that way, SO, exactly how does it work please, somebody!!

TeresaB

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 4:11pm

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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 4:11pm

Hi.  My understanding is that you do not need a visa for stays up to 90 days in a 180 day period, but for stays of more than 90 days will require a visa.  So in a 180 day period you can stay for up to 90 days, or split the 90 “allowance” across multiple trips over the six month period.  This does mean a maximum of 180 days per annum in any of the Schengen countries including Spain, so you could do two trips of 90 days in a year.  Hope this helps 

atab

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 4:58pm

atab

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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 4:58pm

TeresaB wrote on Thu May 13, 2021 4:11pm:

Hi.  My understanding is that you do not need a visa for stays up to 90 days in a 180 day period, but for stays of more than 90 days will require a visa.  So in a 180 day period you can stay for up to 90 days, or split the 90 “allowance” across multiple trips over the six month peri...

...od.  This does mean a maximum of 180 days per annum in any of the Schengen countries including Spain, so you could do two trips of 90 days in a year.  Hope this helps 

Thanks Teresa. If only brexit hadn't  happened!

Andrew14

Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 9:13am

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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 9:13am

Hi, We too have a property in Spain & interested in when I can stay & for how long. I found this calculator which may be of use https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/content/visa-calculator_en

atab

Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 10:17am

atab

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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 10:17am

Andrew14 wrote on Fri May 14, 2021 9:13am:

Hi, We too have a property in Spain & interested in when I can stay & for how long. I found this calculator which may be of use https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/content/visa-calculator_en

Thanks Andrew. Iwill give it a go.

Harv

Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 10:04am

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Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 10:04am

The 180 day period is a rolling one, you cannot pick your own start and end dates. You would exceed the 180 day limit for the dates indicated as the 180 day period starting in September and ending at the end of February you will have stayed around 120 days which exceeds the 90 day limit.

Jeffers

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 12:01pm

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Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 12:01pm

atab,

The 180 day period is not fixed it's floating.

This means you need to look back 180 days from and including the day you are going to leave Spain, making sure you are not spending more than 90 days within that period.

Steve121

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 12:40pm

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Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 12:40pm

Hi


you can only stay for 90 days at a time and you cannot return for another 90 days. Once you 90 days out of Europe is complete, you can then comeback to Spain for another 90 days.

you can only spend 90 days in any 180 days

Harv

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 1:23pm

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Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 1:23pm

Steve121 wrote on Wed May 19, 2021 12:40pm:

Hi


you can only stay for 90 days at a time and you cannot return for another 90 days. Once you 90 days out of Europe is complete, you can then comeback to Spain for another 90 days.

you can only spend 90 days in any 180 days

I wish it was that simple, take the example of someone who stays in October and November 60 days and returns to the UK, they return to Spain for February, go back to the UK for March and return for April and May. This is OK as for any 6 month period that you look at (either October - March or November to April or December to May) they have not exceeded the 90 day limit. There are a couple of websites that do the calculations for you if you enter the dates that are very useful. I did read that the Spanish authorities were looking at a simple visa system for UK tourists that wanted to stay for longer particularly for those that owned property in Spain.

Jeffers

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 1:27pm

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Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 1:27pm

Harv wrote on Wed May 19, 2021 1:23pm:

I wish it was that simple, take the example of someone who stays in October and November 60 days and returns to the UK, they return to Spain for February, go back to the UK for March and return for April and May. This is OK as for any 6 month period that you look at (either October - March or Nov...

...ember to April or December to May) they have not exceeded the 90 day limit. There are a couple of websites that do the calculations for you if you enter the dates that are very useful. I did read that the Spanish authorities were looking at a simple visa system for UK tourists that wanted to stay for longer particularly for those that owned property in Spain.

We live in hope.

The EUSSR Dictators may not let Spain make it easier for us.

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