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Holaitsdavid

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:47pm

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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:47pm

Vonnie123 wrote on Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:48pm:

Lots to consider you will have no personal tax in Spain as will be visiting as non-resident home owners but you will have to pay a non-residents tax once a year for the home you purchase the amount varies depending on the cadastral value of the property a good website to get lots of accurate info...

...mation is Citizens Advice Bureau Spain, they have an excellent website.  You will also have to pay additional tax if you rent out your home whilst you are not there.  You need to consider if your property is on an urbanisation there may be community fees these must be paid for the year whether you are living there full time or not and vary depending on the facilities and where you choose to live. You will also have to pay the Spanish equivalent to council tax called IBI this is cheaper for us than in the UK for a larger property here.  You will also have water and rubbish fees to pay.  Some areas, monthly, some quarterly, some can be 6 monthly.  Costs vary for Agua/Basura depending on where you stay and how much water you use.  Make sure you find yourself a well recommended English speaking Lawyer to check the property you purchase is legal and has no debts outstanding as any debts can be requested by the Ayuntamiento (Local town halls) or tax office years later and the current owner is expected to pay I have read some terrible stories of people having to pay out thousands!  Electricity here is more expensive sadly but you may be lucky and find somewhere with solar panels.  I find food and cost of living lower than in the UK rather than on a par.  We are early retirees living here permanently.  Very difficult to give you a figure for a monthly cost when it would depend a lot on where you choose to purchase, you don't know yet if you would be  e.g. Manilva which would be cheaper than Estapona for propety.  Mijas is a lovely area also less costly than Estapona.  There is a great company that can help you with your non-resident propety tax based in he UK costs around £35 for them to do the annual return they will do the calculations and complete the Modelo 210 form for you if you give them your cadastral value, they also offer a further service to pay the fees for you to the Spanish Tax Authorities unsure how much that costs but not a lot if you are not in Spain at the right time to submit, they are called Spanish Tax Forms Ltd. you can google them and read about what they offer on their website.  Fees must be paid for the previous year by 31st December of the current year.  Public transport much cheaper than in the UK and if you are 60+ you can buy a Tarjeta Dorada card from Renfe that gives train fare discounts.  For pensioners 65+ there is another seniors card that gives discounts on many things including buses and underground, eye tests and vaious other things. Hope this helps.

You covered a lot there, well done, I think the cost between UK and Spain vary on the persons circumstances, those with income and private pensions can be hit with much higher taxes and no social security cap on age.  Equivalent of rates, local taxes much lower, public transport, private GP's health care very cheap. Over the years many will have seen little or no appreciation on property, which also costs about another 13% on purchase price, agents over priced at about 5%., property market Spain has over 3 million vacant properties and 'still building'. electricity prices now daft, (unbearable temperatures parts of the year, so need aircon) also the price of second hand cars is crazy. Booze and eating out very cheap, especially in traditional Spanish restaurant's  where the standard of food is very high and seafood dishes very healthy. Supermarkets can't sell basic drugs like Aspirin, so you are stitched up in pharmacies. 

Patsyabfab

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:11pm

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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:11pm

Holaitsdavid wrote on Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:47pm:

You covered a lot there, well done, I think the cost between UK and Spain vary on the persons circumstances, those with income and private pensions can be hit with much higher taxes and no social security cap on age.  Equivalent of rates, local taxes much lower, public transport, private GP'...

...s health care very cheap. Over the years many will have seen little or no appreciation on property, which also costs about another 13% on purchase price, agents over priced at about 5%., property market Spain has over 3 million vacant properties and 'still building'. electricity prices now daft, (unbearable temperatures parts of the year, so need aircon) also the price of second hand cars is crazy. Booze and eating out very cheap, especially in traditional Spanish restaurant's  where the standard of food is very high and seafood dishes very healthy. Supermarkets can't sell basic drugs like Aspirin, so you are stitched up in pharmacies. 

Thanks so much I'll save all of your messages for future reference 🙂 the best information is from the people who live there 😊😊

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