Electricity fees

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 4:30pm

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KarenFM

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Hi all,

My husband and I are due to complete on a property in Duquesa on 2nd Sept. Our lawyer has sent us a summary of all the fees, which we have now paid.

However, today (out of the blue) our lawyer was asking for 500 euros approx for the need to request boletín to change the electricity contract. I challenged this cost as we have back and forth with the lawyer since Feb and this has never been mentioned.

The lawyer has now stated that wedo not have not to pay this now, and that they will let us know about this as the electrician has to visit the property to prepare an final estimate (after completion date).

I have no problem paying what is due, but is this normal ?

My assumption is that the current owner will take meter readings and send to either the lawyers or the electric company, but I don't know the system so I am a little confused and shocked by this charge.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Also, I have asked the lawyer many times what the council rates bill dates are, the start and end date. I know we have to pay between June and Sept, but in the UK our rates bill year is 1st April and 31st March.

And when is the non residential tax return due ?

Sorry about all the questions

Thank you so much

karen

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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:39pm

Holaitsdavid

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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:39pm

In Spain unlike UK the utility company has a 'charge over the property and the owner', when you buy the property the debt passes to you, which would normally be the last part unpaid month, note that incudes water. The lawyer would need to ask for and check last monthly bills have been paid, but you might find if mid period you have to pay some of their use last period. It's not like UK where you get a meter reading and bill the new tenant, 'the charge is attached to the property'. The same will apply to the local property tax we call rates, IBI. They may have made a contract to pay the last month, the reason for the visit, (was it occupied?) the cost might be greater than to pick up the tab for the last part month. Perhaps now you understand how works you can sort with the lawyers.

(The lawyers here normally charge a fee of about 1% of the sale price (a lot compared to UK) your deal really needed to include cover checking these things, changing suppliers utilities a pain here, they need to see the new deeds in your name to create a new charge over the property,, unlike UK nothing done on trust to pay bills or accept it's you on the phone, all ID and paperwork, also helps keep up employment for all the administration people)

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:40pm

KarenFM

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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:40pm

Holaitsdavid wrote on Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:39pm:
In Spain unlike UK the utility company has a 'charge over the property and the owner', when you buy the property the debt passes to you, which would normally be the last part unpaid month, note that incudes water. The lawyer would need to ask for and check last monthly bills have been paid, but y...

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...ou might find if mid period you have to pay some of their use last period. It's not like UK where you get a meter reading and bill the new tenant, 'the charge is attached to the property'. The same will apply to the local property tax we call rates, IBI. They may have made a contract to pay the last month, the reason for the visit, (was it occupied?) the cost might be greater than to pick up the tab for the last part month. Perhaps now you understand how works you can sort with the lawyers.
(The lawyers here normally charge a fee of about 1% of the sale price (a lot compared to UK) your deal really needed to include cover checking these things, changing suppliers utilities a pain here, they need to see the new deeds in your name to create a new charge over the property,, unlike UK nothing done on trust to pay bills or accept it's you on the phone, all ID and paperwork, also helps keep up employment for all the administration people)

Hello,

To be fair the lawyers have been very good, and it is occupied and I have paid my part of the IBI and commnual charges. They sent me a document stating there was no debt against the property and the English lady who lives there has been there for 21 years and seems to know her stuff.

I am happy to pay what we rightfully owe and I appreciate it all works different to the UK, but the 500 euros was an approx amount, which I noticed today was included in my friends fees (she is buying property next door) but not in mine. I think I would prefer for them to do whatever they have to on completion and send me a bill for the exact amount and then we will pay.

It has not been the easiest process, and with me being a very over cautious Finance Manager, I have probably driven the lawyer crazy with all my questions and requests and wanting all my answers in writing, but I think it is too many years in Finance.

Thank you for explaining so well, I really appreciate it :-)

Karen

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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 4:48pm

Holaitsdavid

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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 4:48pm

KarenFM wrote on Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:40pm:
Hello,
To be fair the lawyers have been very good, and it is occupied and I have paid my part of the IBI and commnual charges. They sent me a document stating there was no debt against the property and the English lady who lives there has been there for 21 years and seems to know her stuff.

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I am happy to pay what we rightfully owe and I appreciate it all works different to the UK, but the 500 euros was an approx amount, which I noticed today was included in my friends fees (she is buying property next door) but not in mine. I think I would prefer for them to do whatever they have to on completion and send me a bill for the exact amount and then we will pay.
It has not been the easiest process, and with me being a very over cautious Finance Manager, I have probably driven the lawyer crazy with all my questions and requests and wanting all my answers in writing, but I think it is too many years in Finance.
Thank you for explaining so well, I really appreciate it :-)
Karen

Glad was of some help, enjoy your new home.

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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:37pm

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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:37pm

Ok he is how it goes the electrician issues the BOE and then you go to the electrical company and ask for a connection, that is it. There probably going to be some phones and emails backwards and forwards but no reason to charge you 500€.

You can get your own electrician to do this, heavens only knows how long your lawyer is going to take

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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 7:21pm

KarenFM

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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 7:21pm

Ana1965 wrote on Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:37pm:
Ok he is how it goes the electrician issues the BOE and then you go to the electrical company and ask for a connection, that is it. There probably going to be some phones and emails backwards and forwards but no reason to charge you 500€.
You can get your own electrician to do this, heavens only knows how long your lawyer is going to take...

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Hello,

That is great, thank you so much for this information.

Kind regards

karen

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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:00pm

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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:00pm

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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:09pm

Ana1965

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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:09pm

Ana1965 wrote on Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:37pm:
Ok he is how it goes the electrician issues the BOE and then you go to the electrical company and ask for a connection, that is it. There probably going to be some phones and emails backwards and forwards but no reason to charge you 500€.
You can get your own electrician to do this, heavens only knows how long your lawyer is going to take...

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whattsapp me on 654 411 014 if you are stuck

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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:49pm

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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:49pm

Non residents tax is charged at the end of the year and should be pro rato for this year. Our lawyer does this year but they charge quite a bit to do this

I feel everything is just so much more expensive to set everything up here in soain

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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:25pm

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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:25pm

Jennyyjones wrote on Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:49pm:
Non residents tax is charged at the end of the year and should be pro rato for this year. Our lawyer does this year but they charge quite a bit to do this
I feel everything is just so much more expensive to set everything up here in soain

These people are good Non-Resident Tax - Modelo 210in Spain - for just 34,95 euro

https://taxadora.com/non-resident-tax-modelo-210/