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Jinxy

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 11:10am

Posts: 30

3 helpful points

Location: Manilva

Joined: 23 Oct 2022

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 11:10am

madrina2alba wrote on Sun Nov 12, 2023 12:08pm:

Living here is completely different than vacationing here, even if that vacation is for 90 days.  Summer weather is much hotter than UK and one becomes accustomed to the climate in which one lives, not the climate of the vacation spot.  I'm walking around in light winter clothing now wh...

...ile seeing tourists in t-shirts and shorts. I'd freeze to death!

Hi, yes I agree with you. People on holiday get the wrong impression and think we have super weather 24/7. The temperatures at the moment are unusual for November but the colder temps around the corner. 

J

StuBurt

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:10pm

StuBurt

Original Poster

Posts: 6

Location: Benalmadena

Joined: 30 Oct 2023

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:10pm

Jinxy wrote on Mon Nov 13, 2023 11:10am:

Hi, yes I agree with you. People on holiday get the wrong impression and think we have super weather 24/7. The temperatures at the moment are unusual for November but the colder temps around the corner. 

J

Here is the Q Code for those that wish to support the petition 

gilly7

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:15pm

Posts: 17

5 helpful points

Location: Cómpeta

Joined: 26 Mar 2020

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:15pm

We have regularly spent five weeks in Cómpeta from the beginning of February, and have also been in Malaga in January frequently. The weather in our home town is nothing like what we have experienced in Andalucia. I am aware that it snows there sometimes, and when it does , all the old men come out and tell you it hasn’t snowed since they can remember . Selective memory! However, a quick look at the mean temperatures for Bedfordshire and the Axarquia is convincing enough for me . It’s 10° where I come from , right now . 

StuBurt

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:31pm

StuBurt

Original Poster

Posts: 6

Location: Benalmadena

Joined: 30 Oct 2023

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:31pm

gilly7 wrote on Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:15pm:

We have regularly spent five weeks in Cómpeta from the beginning of February, and have also been in Malaga in January frequently. The weather in our home town is nothing like what we have experienced in Andalucia. I am aware that it snows there sometimes, and when it does , all the old men come ...

...out and tell you it hasn’t snowed since they can remember . Selective memory! However, a quick look at the mean temperatures for Bedfordshire and the Axarquia is convincing enough for me . It’s 10° where I come from , right now . 

There are 28 European countries of which 25 still get the Old Age Pensioner UK winter fuel allowance. The three that do not, France, Portugal and Spain used to receive the payment but were deprived of this benefit when the parameters were changed to exclude, the less UK Ex pat populated areas of those countries, but to include their overseas territories such as the Canary islands. The reason UK Ex pats in Italy remain eligible is that they have no such overseas territories.

My petition is to reinstate the Winter Fuel Allowance that we had removed with a contrived and dramatic change in the parameters.

A holiday in Spain is very unlike living here throughout the cold winter nights.

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Cathy16

Posted: Sun Feb 4, 2024 4:48pm

Posts: 1

Location: Elviria

Joined: 3 Jan 2020

Posted: Sun Feb 4, 2024 4:48pm

Jinxy wrote on Mon Nov 6, 2023 1:56pm:

Hi, so pleased at long last someone has woken up to the fact that it does get cold in the winter in Spain. Most UK citizens think we have roaring temperatures all the year around??? I have forwarded your e-mail to ex-pat friends to hopefully they will do the same?

Long way to go for 10,000 signatures though?...

...

Regards

J

Hi 

I visit Spain in winter, i live in Scotland & glad to get a bit of sun but I do feel its colder at night.

For ppl who live their all time it will feel colder in Winter

I lived in Singapore for 2yrs & you acclimatise  over time, getting used to heat took months. I spent about 6 months under a fan during day time.

I can attest to fact the longer you stay, you do feel difference, in temperatures

Cathy .

StuBurt

Posted: Sun Feb 4, 2024 5:10pm

StuBurt

Original Poster

Posts: 6

Location: Benalmadena

Joined: 30 Oct 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 4, 2024 5:10pm

Cathy16 wrote on Sun Feb 4, 2024 4:48pm:

Hi 

I visit Spain in winter, i live in Scotland & glad to get a bit of sun but I do feel its colder at night.

For ppl who live their all time it will feel colder in Winter

I lived in Singapore for 2yrs & you acclimatise  over time, getting used to heat took months. I spent about 6 months under a fan during day time.

I can attest to fact the longer you stay, you do feel difference, in temperatures

Cathy .

Right now the days are sunny and quite warm but the nights are rather cold and damp. We rarely need heating in the daytime as we can wrap up with extra clothing when necessary but when the sun goes down so does the temperature and extra clothing just makes one colder.

How is it that in 25 of 28 European countries, British ex pats have the winter fuel allowance, but not in Spain, France and Portugal that have OVERSEAS territories in warmer climates that have been used to distort the winter temperatures and deprive us of the benefit.

Jinxy

Posted: Sun Feb 4, 2024 7:51pm

Posts: 30

3 helpful points

Location: Manilva

Joined: 23 Oct 2022

Posted: Sun Feb 4, 2024 7:51pm

StuBurt wrote on Sun Feb 4, 2024 5:10pm:

Right now the days are sunny and quite warm but the nights are rather cold and damp. We rarely need heating in the daytime as we can wrap up with extra clothing when necessary but when the sun goes down so does the temperature and extra clothing just makes one colder.

How is it that in 25 of 28 European countries, British ex pats have the winter fuel allowance, but not in Spain, France and Portugal that have OVERSEAS territories in warmer climates that have been used to distort the winter temperatures and deprive us of the benefit....

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Yes I agree. When we first came here (13 years ago) I thought the winter was marvellous and bragged to my UK friends about it but now after our lovely hot summers the winters seem no different from the UK.

Take care and keep smiling

J

TB

Posted: Sun Feb 4, 2024 8:28pm

TB

Posts: 145

31 helpful points

Location: Torrox

Joined: 6 Feb 2021

Posted: Sun Feb 4, 2024 8:28pm

Jinxy wrote on Sun Feb 4, 2024 7:51pm:

Yes I agree. When we first came here (13 years ago) I thought the winter was marvellous and bragged to my UK friends about it but now after our lovely hot summers the winters seem no different from the UK.

Take care and keep smiling

J

Where we live in the UK it is 10 degrees tonight dropping to 2 degrees in a few days time. I think it's a bit funny people saying they need a winter fuel allowance for Spain, have you watched the UK weather this winter while we sit in the sun on the paseo every day?

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