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Holaitsdavid

Posted: Sat Mar 2, 2024 3:26am

Holaitsdavid

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Posted: Sat Mar 2, 2024 3:26am

tebo53 wrote on Fri Mar 1, 2024 11:53pm:

When I first came to live in Spain I could get free to air channels on a dish and receiver so FTA is available from a satellite. Here in teeveeing terms of service they explain how their model works:

Read the bold writing.............

Description of Our Service

Teeveeing equips its Members with the means to access FTA satellite broadcasts.

Whereas traditionally you would use your own dish and satellite decoder box we provide you with a virtualized service that replaces this expensive and clumsy hardware kit, that often is no longer allowed to be placed by local governments.

Our Service allows Members to access the live satellite broadcasts in real-time via an uninterrupted chain of communication. This allows you to watch Telly ‘from home’ abroad
using a variety of your devices such as PC, Laptop, TV box, Tablet, Phone and TV.

Access is given in real-time, which means you will connect one-on-one to get plain TV abroad ‘from home’ to stay in touch with your own culture, language and compatriots.

Teeveeing does not restream, alter, edit, change or add any advertising or in any other way
sell, or distribute or exploit the FTA channels. We solely provide technology to access
the aforementioned broadcasts.

Teeveeing add-ons and modules may consist of information such as a TV guide, third party
licensed channels or video on demand can be delivered in other formats, for example via
modern streaming technology which may involve IPTV or OTT delivery.

Teeveeing offers cloud based personal video recording (PVR) that complies with the Spanish
Copyright Law 2/2019 and the Spanish Copyright Act, and consequently with the Directive
93/83/EC, Directive 2001/29/EC, Directive 2014/26/EU, and any other relevant governing
law.

Our Service is compliant with the European Court of Justice rulings on free-to-air
satellite channels: C 607/11, C‑138/16, and any other relevant judgement.


I've read all your waffle and it doesn't really say anything. You still have not proven that teeveeing app is operating illegally. They comply with ECJ rulings and Spanish Copyright Act so if you think you are correct in your accusations maybe you should send all your findings to the correct authorities!
Steve

There a huge document EU law in this link, https://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:1450771/FULLTEXT01.pdf

I don't see how it exempts their service, for a number if reasons, which I will not go into, it's clear you have no knowledge of how this all works, I have been involved in rights issues all my working life. The document link, tries to define a New Public & the Pubic which become more complex within the same territory, but across international borders easy to define. Further, it's obvious Free to Air is for is for public consumption within the country of origin. For example BBC pay Sky for clips Match Of The Day for UK only, all content contracts are clear about the territory. There are teams of people dealing with programme and performance rights in TV, it's a complex business.    

         

You did indeed once watch UK TV from Sat here in Spain, but the rights holders forced them onto a local spot beam, the reason that service no longer available. Even then if received from the Sat dish and put onto a pay Spanish IPTV system or internet service it would be piracy. 

Have a good weekend, 

tebo53

Posted: Sat Mar 2, 2024 8:57am

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Posted: Sat Mar 2, 2024 8:57am

Holaitsdavid wrote on Sat Mar 2, 2024 3:26am:

There a huge document EU law in this link, https://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:1450771/FULLTEXT01.pdf

I don't see how it exempts their service, for a number if reasons, which I will not go into, it's clear you have no knowledge of how this all works, I have been involved in rights issues all my working life. The document link, tries to define a New Public & the Pubic which become more co...

...mplex within the same territory, but across international borders easy to define. Further, it's obvious Free to Air is for is for public consumption within the country of origin. For example BBC pay Sky for clips Match Of The Day for UK only, all content contracts are clear about the territory. There are teams of people dealing with programme and performance rights in TV, it's a complex business.    

         

You did indeed once watch UK TV from Sat here in Spain, but the rights holders forced them onto a local spot beam, the reason that service no longer available. Even then if received from the Sat dish and put onto a pay Spanish IPTV system or internet service it would be piracy. 

Have a good weekend, 

Yes, whatever 🙄...........

It's then your duty to report these illegal activities otherwise you must be OK with it. 

I really don't care less,as long as I'm getting 36 tv channels and catchup services I'll keep paying the subscriptions.

Excellent quality, excellent service for the right price 😏

Steve 

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