driving down from the UK in October - Page 2

steve337 wrote on Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:20pm:

I do tend to wear a mask in confined spaces, & maybe in crowded streets for limited periods as I do have respect for others. However if I'm in am open area with no one within 2 metres I take my mask off (I have a Doctor's note), but when you are away from others with no danger of infection wh...

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...at is the point of mask wearing apart from it being a handy income stream for the Police?

Keep safe obviously, but people have to have respect for the law. This wearing masks at all times is just an excuse for the Police to throw their weight around, & oh boy don't some of the upholders of law & order love it! The previous regime was sensible about wearing a mask if you couldn't socially distance, but now it's stupid. It's a case of Politicians being seen do be "doing something". I think there are a lot of panic measures that have been introduced I have seen 2 Policemen in a car without masks. Maybe they were from the same household?

Also the jury is still out about masks, some reports saying they do more harm than good.

Hopefully if someone replies to this please note I am really saying if you are nowhere near anybody then it's a ridiculous law. To repeat I get wearing masks in enclosed area or crowded areas even if the jury is still out about that also. People should be treated as adults as far as safety is concerned. I feel parts of the world have turned into Police State with freedoms gone & we should be concerned about that, but I think the fear factor has in certain cases let Politicians get away with murder.

Petert wrote on Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:24pm:

It is not about a police State or Government interference. It’s is about potentially saving lives. I would not wear a mask outside if nobody is near but in Spain the police will fine you. The problem is that when you set a law it has to cover the stupid in society or they will misunderstand. Th...

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...e world is regrettably full of very stupid people who often congregate on beaches and in bars without masks Or social distancing. So laws can become draconian. 

Admirably the police in Spain are way over the top. They can be quite ridiculous. Personally I would rather play safe in the interest of the vulnerable. 

Pete9 wrote on Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:31pm:

Agree with all that.... Its about using commonsense to protect each other. Nothing to do really with the police, they just trying to protect us as well. 

steve337 wrote on Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:34pm:

I totally disagree,

If you are stopping the spread of the virus (arguably), then fine.

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This issue seems to have become a generation thing. I think I'm in the minority, being nearly 70 in saying that the law on wearing masks has gone too far. Also this attitude that let the Police go over the top is OK, ridiculous!

Perhaps there are a load of masochists out there who want to wear masks when it is known it won't make an iota of difference, especially in the heat of the summer.

Let's be honest. This about the fear of catching a disease & possibly dying. I don't want to die, & on a personal level I am safeguarding myself as best I can. The point is it's personal choice. I don't want to spend the rest of my days living in an overbearing Police state enforcing the law in circumstances that won't affect getting infected.

The other unfortunate truth is on a worldwide level Covid19 is letting rip, look at countries such as New Zealand or Australia & the way numbers of infections are going up. I don't think wearing a mask when you are nowhere near anybody else is going to change that.

Some people reading this might need a prop to feel safe when it makes no difference. I don't. I prefer to breathe fresh air without suffocating.

This message won't change anybodies mind I'm sure as there are a lot of scared people out there. Am I the only senior citizen in Spain who wants some freedom when it is absolutely clear no one will be harmed?

Pete9 wrote on Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:43pm:

Your a bit misguided I'm afraid... Choice WAS .. Necessity IS... We are in unchartered territory and those without commonsense must be guided... By the way I'm 72

steve337 wrote on Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:34pm:

I totally disagree,

If you are stopping the spread of the virus (arguably), then fine.

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This issue seems to have become a generation thing. I think I'm in the minority, being nearly 70 in saying that the law on wearing masks has gone too far. Also this attitude that let the Police go over the top is OK, ridiculous!

Perhaps there are a load of masochists out there who want to wear masks when it is known it won't make an iota of difference, especially in the heat of the summer.

Let's be honest. This about the fear of catching a disease & possibly dying. I don't want to die, & on a personal level I am safeguarding myself as best I can. The point is it's personal choice. I don't want to spend the rest of my days living in an overbearing Police state enforcing the law in circumstances that won't affect getting infected.

The other unfortunate truth is on a worldwide level Covid19 is letting rip, look at countries such as New Zealand or Australia & the way numbers of infections are going up. I don't think wearing a mask when you are nowhere near anybody else is going to change that.

Some people reading this might need a prop to feel safe when it makes no difference. I don't. I prefer to breathe fresh air without suffocating.

This message won't change anybodies mind I'm sure as there are a lot of scared people out there. Am I the only senior citizen in Spain who wants some freedom when it is absolutely clear no one will be harmed?

steve337 wrote on Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:49pm:

But in my view it's not necessity.

Thanks for your comment, & your age tends to prove my theory about older people letting politicians do what they like on this issue. It's dangerous in my opinion. To be over the top its how things started in Germany in the thirties, sorry but I believe in freedom which is a delicate flower mu...

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...st be protected at all costs. Covid one day, what tommorow?

Petert wrote on Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:37pm:

Now don’t be silly. I am not stupid nor unnecessarily influenced by anybody; I form my own option based on a good degree of reading and research. Don’t talk to me about wartime Germany as my father, a Spitfire pilot fought for our freedom. 

Phil1 wrote on Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:31pm:

Reality distorted beyond comprehension..no direction in sight.awful

Pete9 wrote on Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:31pm:

Agree with all that.... Its about using commonsense to protect each other. Nothing to do really with the police, they just trying to protect us as well.