90 day rule confusion
We will stay in Alhaurin de la Torre for approx 65 days from October when does the next 90 days start? We want to come out again in January or February for approx 60 days. I am still confused on 90 day rule.
We will stay in Alhaurin de la Torre for approx 65 days from October when does the next 90 days start? We want to come out again in January or February for approx 60 days. I am still confused on 90 day rule.
Hi. Yes it is a bit confusing ! The rule is a maximum of 90 days in a 180 day period. So if you come out for 65 days on 1st October you can only be here for another 25 days in the EU before the end of March. Your next 90 day window would start around the 1st April. There’s a Schengen calculator here
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 6:12pm
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It's all in a PDF Link below about the 90 days, 'note the 180-day reference period is not fixed'. It is a moving window, based on the approach of looking backwards at each day of the stay, at the moment of entry. & border check upon departure. (Absence for an uninterrupted period of 90 days allows for a new stay for up to 90 days)
'Frequently Asked Questions on the Schengen'
https://eeas.europa.eu/sites/default/files/visa_waiver_faqs_en.pdf
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:31pm
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'Here in another link about the 90 Rule' Schengen Area (Spain)
Note 'Your first entry in the 180-day period is when your 90-day counter starts'. These days don’t need to be consecutive — the total is cumulative. Once day 181 hits, the count resets itself. For example, if I come to the Area in January and stay for 60 days and then come back in June for 10 days, that counts as 70 days in 180 days. Only days you are in the zone during the period count. If you go on January 1st and stay 90 straight days, you have to leave and technically can’t come back until July 1st.
https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/how-to-legally-stay-in-europe-for-more-than-90-days/
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LainyC wrote on Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:02am:
We will stay in Alhaurin de la Torre for approx 65 days from October when does the next 90 days start? We want to come out again in January or February for approx 60 days. I am still confused on 90 day rule.
Hi,
If this is your first visit, then the 90 days start from the date you arrive in Spain. I find the following site an easy one to use for calculating your stay limits:
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:54am
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I have found this calculator to be very clear Schengen Days
Go to your App Store and download ‘Schengen Stay Planner’
Its not perfect but it is in calendar format and is block colour coded for planned trips; completed trips; dates available for entry and dates not available for entry
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