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Relocation

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:52pm
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Skipgreg

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I wish to relocate to Costa del Sol. I lived in the US, but raised in Mexico, so I speak perfect Spanish. Any points of view would be welcome. I would love to get any suggestions regarding working in sales with a high end real estate developer. 

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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:08pm

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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:08pm

Not a good time right now economy is pretty dire, I think will find very hard in Spain. 

Skipgreg

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:31pm

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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:31pm

Holaitsdavid wrote on Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:08pm:

Not a good time right now economy is pretty dire, I think will find very hard in Spain. 

Thank you. I was planning on spring of next year. I just did not know if personally or professionaly people are tainted toward Americans due to the political idiocy taking place in the US. Thank you for responding.

AndyP

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:51am

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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:51am

I don't think that the political situation in the US is any better or worse that anywhere else right now. I honestly don't think it will affect how people from the US are viewed or treated and speaking fluent Spanish will help enormously. Economies are in tatters worldwide and if you wait for them to get better then chances are you'll be pushing up daisies by the time that happens. I think you will need boots on the ground really to find your ideal spot for living and working. And, of course, to get some face to faces with potential employers although a lot of the initial grunt work can probably be done remotely. Good luck however you decide to proceed!

Skipgreg

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:04am

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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:04am

Thank you so much. I appreciate the advice and will take a trip there soon.

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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:12pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:12pm

AndyP wrote on Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:51am:

I don't think that the political situation in the US is any better or worse that anywhere else right now. I honestly don't think it will affect how people from the US are viewed or treated and speaking fluent Spanish will help enormously. Economies are in tatters worldwide and if you wait for the...

...m to get better then chances are you'll be pushing up daisies by the time that happens. I think you will need boots on the ground really to find your ideal spot for living and working. And, of course, to get some face to faces with potential employers although a lot of the initial grunt work can probably be done remotely. Good luck however you decide to proceed!

With respect Andy you say "I don't think that the political situation in the US is any better or worse that anywhere else right now" 

You cannot compare the situation in the US to Spain, 'the economy is booming' I have business connections & my son live in Midtown Atlanta. Spain compared to US & UK is like chalk and cheese, in Andalucía unemployment is horrendous, under 25 is average about  50%. Q2   https://countryeconomy.com/labour-force-survey/spain-autonomous-communities/andalusia In the US & UK unemployment average is about 5% which is viewed as 'full employment' & wages are rising. Also is Spain in their socialist style wisdom they even change people who wish to be 'self-employed' a penalty minimum 300 Euro a month, 'even if they earn nothing!' also have to pay VAT all sales, in the UK start rate £12 a month and not VAT until turnover 85,000. Taxes are high in Spain also basic tax thresholds before you pay tax less than half UK. 'Economically is all a bit of a basket case', however, 'the people are wonderful & the culture', it's a great place to live & the weather wonderful all year round, the reason why most of us Brits are here. If people are looking for commercial prospects & employment, Andalucía one of the last places to come, he could be very disappointed. 

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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:47pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:47pm

Skipgreg wrote on Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:31pm:

Thank you. I was planning on spring of next year. I just did not know if personally or professionaly people are tainted toward Americans due to the political idiocy taking place in the US. Thank you for responding.

"people are tainted toward Americans due to the political idiocy taking place in the US"

See my other post, you have no idea of the idiocy going on here in Spain & has no central bank, 'the US is doing just great', low unemployment & economy is booming, Spain is run by the 'Spanish Socialist Workers' Party' the US right now by capitalist centre Social Democrats. It's a vast economy near 23 trillion economy, 'the land of opportunity for those who want to work hard'. Note migrant families the highest earners in the US now lead by 'Indian Americans' 126,705  dollars, even those from 'Pakistan' many of which do poorly in the UK number 9 , over 87,000 dollars. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income. The new US stimulus package of over 3 Trillion will maintain the US position as 'the land of milk & honey'. This is bigger than anywhere in the west, note Eurozone stimulus package only half that per capita of UK, which is well behind the US, but so far doing OK.   

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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:17pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:17pm

I think you've entirely missed my point along with that of the OP. Neither he nor I were looking for an economics lesson. The guy is thinking of relocating. He may or may not do that. It is not for me or you for that matter to pour vinegar all over his chips. It will ultimately be his decision to make and he needs to do that by seeing first hand if what he would like to do is realistic. Why spoil somebody's dream? I won't. You can carry on being an expert, we're all impressed, but that really isn't what the thread is about. Most people dream, very few actually turn those dreams into reality. The OP might or he might not. But I'm not going to dampen his enthusiasm. And who's to say that he can't make it work? Not me and it shouldn't be you.

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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 6:59pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 6:59pm

AndyP wrote on Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:17pm:

I think you've entirely missed my point along with that of the OP. Neither he nor I were looking for an economics lesson. The guy is thinking of relocating. He may or may not do that. It is not for me or you for that matter to pour vinegar all over his chips. It will ultimately be his decision to...

... make and he needs to do that by seeing first hand if what he would like to do is realistic. Why spoil somebody's dream? I won't. You can carry on being an expert, we're all impressed, but that really isn't what the thread is about. Most people dream, very few actually turn those dreams into reality. The OP might or he might not. But I'm not going to dampen his enthusiasm. And who's to say that he can't make it work? Not me and it shouldn't be you.

I'm sorry about that, thought was looking for 'work opportunities', plus he seemed to think the US was 'tainted by their political position', when in reality very likely to see the most growth of any western nations. 'I wish the best of luck', but thought useful for him to know the true landscape here in Andalucía, it's very tough for the Spanish people, let alone for people from other nations looking for prospects here. Just thought better to have his eyes wide open. 

Skipgreg

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 12:55am

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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 12:55am

Thank you all for your input. If I did relocate, it would only be after securing a position. I may have an offer in upper management.

Again, thank you for your points of view.

Well informed is well armed.

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