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What is a dependent

Posted: Sat Aug 7, 2021 11:55am
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Hibees1875

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Hi, very confused as to what is termed a dependent for salary requirements for non-lucrative visa criteria. Is my wife a dependent therefore does the extra 500 plus Euros need to be added to income. Help appreciated.

Holaitsdavid

Posted: Sat Aug 7, 2021 5:38pm

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Posted: Sat Aug 7, 2021 5:38pm

"Hi, very confused as to what is termed a dependent for salary requirements for non-lucrative visa criteria. Is my wife a dependent therefore does the extra 500 plus Euros need to be added to income. Help appreciated"

The financial limits, based on Spain’s public index figures, are a minimum of €27,115.20 in a bank account or a minimum monthly income of €2,259.60. 'Each additional family member will require evidence of a further €6,778.80 in the bank or €564.90 per month by way of income'

https://www.spanishpropertyinsight.com/2021/04/21/moving-to-spain-from-the-uk-2021/

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Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 4:17am

Hibees1875 wrote on Sat Aug 7, 2021 11:55am:

Hi, very confused as to what is termed a dependent for salary requirements for non-lucrative visa criteria. Is my wife a dependent therefore does the extra 500 plus Euros need to be added to income. Help appreciated.

Basically someone whom is not earning a wage and paying local taxes etc.. and thus depends on you for their income

Hibees1875

Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 8:55am

Hibees1875

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Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 8:55am

SteveLinzH wrote on Sun Aug 8, 2021 4:17am:

Basically someone whom is not earning a wage and paying local taxes etc.. and thus depends on you for their income

Steve, but I wouldn't be earning a wage or paying local taxes, your not allowed to under the non-lucrative visa rules, we'd be living off my Army pension. 

Hibees1875

Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 8:58am

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Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 8:58am

Holaitsdavid wrote on Sat Aug 7, 2021 5:38pm:

"Hi, very confused as to what is termed a dependent for salary requirements for non-lucrative visa criteria. Is my wife a dependent therefore does the extra 500 plus Euros need to be added to income. Help appreciated"

The financial limits, based on Spain’s public index figures, are a minimum of €27,115.20 in a bank account or a minimum monthly income of €2,259.60. 'Each additional family member will require evidence of a further €6,778.80 in the bank or €564.90 per month by way of income'...

Yeah seen that, question is what is an additional family member, wife or is it children.

Holaitsdavid

Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 5:41pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 5:41pm

Hibees1875 wrote on Sun Aug 8, 2021 8:58am:

Yeah seen that, question is what is an additional family member, wife or is it children.

It will be any family member, partner, wife, children who would be with you.

Holaitsdavid

Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 5:59pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 5:59pm

Hibees1875 wrote on Sun Aug 8, 2021 8:55am:

Steve, but I wouldn't be earning a wage or paying local taxes, your not allowed to under the non-lucrative visa rules, we'd be living off my Army pension. 

You would be paying taxes as a resident, income from UK will be taxed in Spain, they do have a dual taxation agreement, which just means any tax detucted UK can be credited, taxes are higher in Spain & Tax free allowance in very low. Income means any earnings be it pension or anything else. Non-Lucrative just mean you will not work in Spain.

Hibees1875

Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 7:39pm

Hibees1875

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Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 7:39pm

Holaitsdavid wrote on Sun Aug 8, 2021 5:59pm:

You would be paying taxes as a resident, income from UK will be taxed in Spain, they do have a dual taxation agreement, which just means any tax detucted UK can be credited, taxes are higher in Spain & Tax free allowance in very low. Income means any earnings be it pension or anything else. N...

...on-Lucrative just mean you will not work in Spain.

That's the thing as I have a government pension I wouldn't pay tax on it in Spain but in the UK. I suppose 4 years away things may have changed greatly anyway with who knows what deals will have been struck.

Hibees1875

Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 7:40pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 7:40pm

Holaitsdavid wrote on Sun Aug 8, 2021 5:41pm:

It will be any family member, partner, wife, children who would be with you.

Thanks for the reply, thought maybe it was just children. 

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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:47pm

Hibees1875 wrote on Sun Aug 8, 2021 7:39pm:

That's the thing as I have a government pension I wouldn't pay tax on it in Spain but in the UK. I suppose 4 years away things may have changed greatly anyway with who knows what deals will have been struck.

Do not believe this is correct, as you will stay more than 183 days/year you become a tax resident & pay tax in Spain,  no matter what the source of income.  As Holaitsdavid  says theres a reciprocal tax agreement so you wont be taxed in UK. 

Plenty of info via "Google" if you want further confirmation

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