Non Lucrative Visa - UK resident - Page 4

Holaitsdavid wrote on Thu Oct 7, 2021 11:59am:

"So Enter via France" that does not help I  posted above (Your stay started when you reached France or any of those below list) 

'You still enter and leave the 'Schengen Area' it's not just about Spain? All these countries count as one as no borders. - Germany, Austria, Belgium, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, ...

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...the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, 'Portugal', Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden and Switzerland'.

It's nothing to do directly with Spain, your passport is stamped when you enter and leave the "Schengen" area, the 90 day stay is there regardless of the country, all one area within the EU/EEA/EFTA., Stamped again when you leave and return to country which does not belong. to the Schengen zone, these are not part -  Albania, Andora, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Croatia, Cyprus, Georgia, Ireland, Kosovo, North Macedonia, Moldova, Monaco, Montenegro, Romania, Russia, San Marino, Serbia, Turkey, Ukraine, 'The United Kingdom' and Vatican City. 

Your passport simply gets stamped upon your arrival and departure from Europe's Schengen Zone. 

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/brits-overstaying-eus-90-180-days-rule-to-face-penalties/

MrBluesky66 wrote on Thu Oct 7, 2021 10:15am:

Hi . KevinBD

I have thought of this  idea. As  we wanted to do a road trip also ? I take it they do not stamp your passport on the road Toll ? we would be in a hire car / train . 

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So Enter via France then exit via Spain ,10 - 12 months later ?  loop hole  or am I being too cynical ?? lol 

MrBluesky66 wrote on Thu Oct 7, 2021 10:15am:

Hi . KevinBD

I have thought of this  idea. As  we wanted to do a road trip also ? I take it they do not stamp your passport on the road Toll ? we would be in a hire car / train . 

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So Enter via France then exit via Spain ,10 - 12 months later ?  loop hole  or am I being too cynical ?? lol 

Kerri wrote on Thu Oct 7, 2021 11:50am:

These are all just people with their opinions!  I drove from Spain into Portugal and didn't even know when I crossed the border.  Expect the same from France into Spain but I have not done it myself.

I understand there are many, many people still living here in Spain without official documentation because when they came no one checked.  Well back a few decades ago there was not the technology to track people's movements in the same way....

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Nowadays things are different.  Likely you can get away with anything until you get caught and questions become difficult.  What happens if you get suddenly sick on the road?  Where do you go?  What do you do?

I suppose it is easy for a young person to swing here and there and ride under the radar of the authorities but its always a question if something goes wrong and what are the consequences and are you prepared to take those risks??

Yes, due to Brexit getting residency in Spain is more difficult but it isn't impossible.  You just need more resources than before.  But getting residency has its costs.  Residency in any Country means taxes.  Unfortunately, and for reasons that seem unclear, Schenegan rules across most of Europe is 90 days in with a 90 day out.  Want more, become a resident and pay the price of that in taxes.  

It is definitely not the world we used to live in with limited rules and those in place difficult to enforce.  Technology has changed everything.  I always believe its best to evaluate the risks and ask yourself if you are willing to pay the price if you do not get away with breaking the law.

KevinBD wrote on Thu Oct 7, 2021 12:13pm:

No. I drove through the tunnel and down to Limoges, where I stayed overnight. Then I drove down to Madrid and after a stop there, onto Malaga. Take it you have never done this, as you have no real experience or knowledge?

KevinBD wrote on Thu Oct 7, 2021 12:24pm:

Here we go, opinions, not facts from another 'Expert'. There are no checks at the borders, I should know, I cross them enough times. If you fall ill, you need health insurance, it is not like the UK. I have a Spanish car, Spanish insurance for it, as well as health and life insurance. I own my ho...

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...use and have a business here as well. I have a Spanish driving licence (the test is so easy) so I know the process and how the system works. I have NEVER been asked for ID by the police, so where are these scaremongers getting their information?